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Summary
Grab a stool at the Dive Bar Music Club, where host Sloane Spencer and Regulars Charles Hale and Nelson Gullett share their low-key, high-taste music selections. This week’s happy hour for music nerds dives deep into the miracle of the Michael Shannon and Jason Narducy's Life's Rich Pageant R.E.M. tour, where even Bobcat Goldthwait's opening set brought joy, much to their surprise. Between Charles’s treasure trove of new vinyl finds, ranging from the haunting Magnolia and Johnson Electric Co. 7" to the garage-rock grit of the Flamin' Groovies, and Nelson’s essential preview of the Big Ears Festival featuring lap-style guitar creative Yasmin Williams, the episode is a masterclass in crate-digging. It’s a passionate, defense of the weird, the instrumental, and the feel-good oldies that make being a music obsessive worth the effort.
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Bands Featured in Episode 5
- Angine de Poitrine
- Beulah
- The Cure
- Cure for Paranoia
- Flamin' Groovies
- Gwenifer Raymond
- Haley Heynderickx and Max Garcia Conover
- Magnolia & Johnson Electric Co.
- Yasmin Williams ft Dom Flemons
Venues and Festivals Mentioned
- The 40 Watt Club, Athens, GA
- Big Ears Festival, Knoxville, TN
- Bijou Theatre, Knoxville, TN
- Bonnaroo, Manchester, TN
- Cat’s Cradle, Carrboro, NC
- Tennessee Theatre, Knoxville, TN
The Regulars
Musicians, Photographers, and Other Cool People and Places Mentioned
- Adam Smith
- Alvin Youngblood Hart
- American Aquarium
- Amethyst Kiah
- Apples in Stereo
- Arooj Aftab
- Backsliders
- Ben Nichols
- Beulah
- Billy Allen and the Pollies
- Blind Boys of Alabama
- The Carolina Chocolate Drops
- Charles Wesley Godwin
- Chocolate Genius
- Chris Porter
- Chris Thile
- Darrell Scott
- The Devil Makes Three
- The Glands
- MJ Lenderman
- Jason Molina
- Jason Narducy
- Jay Farrar
- Jim Dickinson
- Jim James
- John Zorn
- Johnny Blue Skies (Sturgill Simpson)
- Ken Pomeroy
- Luther Dickinson
- Madison Cunningham
- Magnolia Electric Co.
- Marc Ribot
- Michael Shannon
- Molina and Johnson
- Nels Cline
- Neutral Milk Hotel
- New Multitudes
- Nirvana
- Patti Smith
- R.E.M.
- Reggie Watts
- Sam Amidon
- Scott Avett
- Sturgill Simpson
- Sun Ra Arkestra
- Sunny War
- Tatiana Hargreaves
- The 400 Unit
- Thurston Moore
- Waxahatchee
- The Westerlies
- Will Johnson
- William Tyler
- Wu Fei
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Transcript
Welcome to the Dive Bar Music Club podcast, where the guest hosts drop in and out, but the opinions are always passionate and the playlists loud.
Speaker A:It's like cheers if everyone at the bar had a strong take on 90s alt rock or a suspicious number of burned CDs.
Speaker A:Around our table you'll find an emerging touring songwriter, a former cult band favorite whose work since then is even more interesting, a portrait photographer with a not so secret metal penchant, a record store owner who learned about Swifties the hard way, a retired folk singer who regrets nothing, and a zine maker with more cool music projects than we can count.
Speaker B:We're all just here to share what
Speaker A:we're currently obsessed with and maybe convince someone that, yes, that weird Icelandic synth folk band is worth a listen.
Speaker A:Okay, that last one's probably me, Sloan Spencer.
Speaker A:It's Dive Bar Music Club.
Speaker A:Low key, high Taste happy hour for music nerds.
Speaker B:Welcome back to Dive Bar Music Club, the low key, high taste happy hour for music nerds.
Speaker B:I'm your chief music nerd, Sloan Spencer, and I'm joined today with Nelson Gullet and Charles Hale.
Speaker B:We got a fun list of tunes to talk about today and I hope we get to them all because there's a unintentional theme at the end that's not a thematic theme, so I don't know if we'll get a chance to wrap that up or not.
Speaker B:But first we're talking a little offline about stuff we all have been doing related to music in the last month or so.
Speaker B:Charles and Nelson, what have you all been doing with music lately?
Speaker C:I have been working just, you know, around the radio station, dealing with new stuff.
Speaker C:Been digging pretty deep into that new Sturgil release that came through the other night.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker C:I don't want to get too deep into it because I think that might be a topic of conversation in an upcoming episode.
Speaker C:But I spent a lot of time yesterday going track by track through that album, reading the lyric sheet and saying, we can play this song, we can't play that song.
Speaker C:Fun record, but not, not, not for terrestrial radio.
Speaker C:There's a lot of.
Speaker C:A lot of stuff to work around.
Speaker C:But yeah, it's cool to have some new music from Spurgel and, you know, we're getting ready for a big festival here in town at the end of the month, which is mostly what I'm going to be talking about today.
Speaker B:I'm looking forward to hearing about the festival.
Speaker B:Yeah, I'm digging this new Sturgill record as well.
Speaker B:Johnny Blue Skies.
Speaker C:Technically, yes, yes.
Speaker B:We are going to be talking about it on a upcoming episode, so.
Speaker B:But yeah.
Speaker B:Not made for radio, which.
Speaker B:Amen.
Speaker B:How about you, Charles?
Speaker D:The last time we talked, I had just purchased a large record collection for my store.
Speaker D:And so I've spent the last three weeks, four weeks going through that, which has been a lot of fun, discovering lots of things and seeing records that I had only heard of and.
Speaker D:And got a chance to listen to.
Speaker D:So that's been fun.
Speaker D:And I've also caught two live shows.
Speaker D:One was just a couple of nights ago.
Speaker D:The Devil Makes Three were in Colorado.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker D:And at the beginning of February, I saw the Michael Shannon, Jason Narducci REM show in Denver, and it's the.
Speaker B:Really?
Speaker D:Yeah, it's the first time I've seen them because they haven't come to Denver in previous years.
Speaker D:So they kicked off the tour in Denver.
Speaker B:Ah, okay.
Speaker B:So let's.
Speaker B:Let's not go too deep in the weeds, because I just got back from seeing three nights of that show.
Speaker B:But what was special about the Denver
Speaker D:show that I was there.
Speaker B:Amen.
Speaker D:So it was special, I think, for people in Colorado because we've heard about it but haven't gotten to witness it.
Speaker D:It's the kind of thing that happens because Denver is a little isolated.
Speaker D:We don't get some of the, like, the smaller tours.
Speaker D:We.
Speaker D:We did have a couple of special guests, not as noteworthy as special guests in the south, but apparently both of Michael Shannon's sisters live in Colorado.
Speaker D:They're both singers, and so they each came out and sang one song.
Speaker D:I can't remember one of them.
Speaker D:One of them was one of the songs that Patti Smith does on New Adventures in hi Fi.
Speaker D:So, yes, I think that's the.
Speaker C:Oh, man.
Speaker D:That's the one that they did.
Speaker D:But, yeah, it was.
Speaker D:It was just a lot of fun.
Speaker B:Very cool.
Speaker B:Well, yeah, I'll.
Speaker B:I'll probably deep dive into the various times I've seen this tour in the previous tours some other time.
Speaker B:But, yeah, it was fun.
Speaker B:I. I got to see both nights in Athens, and I also drove over to Chapel Hill to Cat's Cradle and saw that show as well.
Speaker B:So it was fun to get to see three nights of the same thing for me.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:Did y' all have an opener in Denver?
Speaker D:Yeah, we.
Speaker D:We had Bobcat.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:I just want to say that he was my biggest surprise of the whole thing because I heard Bobcat Goldthwaite once decades ago, and I never listened again.
Speaker B:And anytime he came on or was going to be on, I would turn it off.
Speaker B:He was fantastic.
Speaker D:Also enjoyed him.
Speaker D:I. I'll just be like the old guy.
Speaker B:He.
Speaker D:He went on too long, and then there was too long of a.
Speaker D:Of a quote, set break between comedian and band.
Speaker D:I mean, it was only like 20 minutes.
Speaker D:But what did they have to do?
Speaker D:They didn't have to break down anything from the comedy set.
Speaker D:But there's no reason to complain about the thing because it's just a miracle that, that that sort of concert tour exists and that it's so well received.
Speaker D:So my question, Sloane, because you saw multiple nights, were the bonus songs after the main album different each night?
Speaker B:So, yes, I would say not a hundred percent different.
Speaker B:My analysis of it would be that they had 40 songs ready to go and they would pick 20 of them each night.
Speaker B:So there was a little bit of overlap, but it wasn't totally the same.
Speaker B:Yeah, the thing that was different on this tour from the previous time that I saw the previous record was that there was a lot of post IRS material, and it was received quite differently at the two different venues by the audiences because the audiences were very different.
Speaker C:Yeah, I was so lucky.
Speaker C:I got to go last year, Sloan, because you.
Speaker C:You reached out to me at 9 o' clock in the morning and said, how fast can you get to Athens?
Speaker B:And I'm that person.
Speaker C:I just kind of dropped everything.
Speaker C:Yeah, I kind of dropped everything and went to the show.
Speaker C:But I stood outside the 40 watts in line and I could hear the sound check for that show, the second show at Athens last year, and I heard the sound check songs that didn't make the playlist.
Speaker C:So I think probably like you, they had a bunch of songs ready to go and just depending on who the guests were, what they wanted to play, the mood of the night was they could probably shuffle them in and out.
Speaker C:But last year, I think there were two songs that were post irs.
Speaker C:And he said that that kind of changed a little this time around.
Speaker C:But I'm just sitting here crying because I'm listening to you guys talk about the show this year, and I had tickets and wasn't able to make it, but I'm gonna catch him next time on the Document Tour.
Speaker B:That's right.
Speaker B:Because I always buy two tickets whether I can make it happen or not.
Speaker B:So you can be my plus one.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker D:I love that they didn't play the hits.
Speaker D:I love that they played post IRS stuff.
Speaker D:I love that it wasn't hits.
Speaker D:They weren't.
Speaker D:They weren't trying to recreate a concert.
Speaker D:They were celebrating the entire catalog, so to speak.
Speaker B:Agreed yeah.
Speaker B:Even, like, was Great beyond in the set when you were there.
Speaker D:Yes.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Like, and randomly.
Speaker B:I know.
Speaker B:So I am.
Speaker B:I am definitely a fan of the first five albums plus Chronic down and not super knowledgeable about the post IRS material, but I did work in AAA radio for a really long time, so we played a number of those songs.
Speaker B:And so I only knew Great beyond because we played it on the radio.
Speaker B:I didn't even know it was from a movie.
Speaker D:Right.
Speaker D:Yeah, it was just.
Speaker D:It was an.
Speaker D:An exciting night.
Speaker D:I thought Michael Shannon did an unbelievably good job of being a front person.
Speaker D:And obviously the band is really, really good.
Speaker B:The band is amazing.
Speaker C:Was it the same band from last year?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:I'm trying to think.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Was John Stewart on base last time?
Speaker B:I think he was.
Speaker C:He was, yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:It was all the same people.
Speaker C:Awesome.
Speaker B:Yeah, it was super fun.
Speaker B:Whoa.
Speaker B:Fun.
Speaker B:I didn't get to.
Speaker B:I didn't realize you got to see that too, Charles.
Speaker B:And randomly.
Speaker B:I have a Devil Makes Three magnet on my refrigerator.
Speaker B:I haven't seen them in years, but I love them.
Speaker D:So you like that devil stuff, huh?
Speaker B:I do.
Speaker B:I do.
Speaker B:A friend of the devil, friend of mine.
Speaker B:As always, y' all pick great music this time around.
Speaker B:And with just the three of us, I hope that we get a chance to bring up all the songs.
Speaker B:I was kind of joking at the beginning of the show that there's like an unintentional theme in these songs that I will.
Speaker B:I'll bring up at the very end of it.
Speaker B:But musically we've got Charles.
Speaker B:Your stuff is more broad thematically in the.
Speaker B:Or stylistically rather in Nelson.
Speaker B:Yours has some interesting tie together.
Speaker B:But I want to start with you, Charles.
Speaker B:Of the songs you chose this time around because they're kind of from three different places.
Speaker D:That was by design.
Speaker D:I like to represent myself as being more than just one thing.
Speaker B:Tell us about that.
Speaker D:Okay, so the.
Speaker D:The first song I chose is what I've been dying to talk about on this program, but I had to wait till the 7 inch arrived.
Speaker D:The group is called the Magnolia and Johnson Electric Company, which I think knowledgeable listeners will.
Speaker D:Will understand where that comes from.
Speaker D:It's a collaboration between Will Johnson from the band Centromatic and the surviving members of the Magnolia Electric Company.
Speaker D:That band was fronted by Jason Molina, who passed away.
Speaker D:And so Will and those other musicians got together sometime last year, recorded three songs, and then played a handful of dates together.
Speaker D:And they released a three song streaming a little while ago.
Speaker D:But the seven inch single has two Songs and it just arrived in the last month.
Speaker D:Will Johnson has a history with Jason Molina.
Speaker D:They.
Speaker D:They made a one off record together that's just called Molina and Johnson.
Speaker D:The two songs on the 7 inch, Wooden Heart, which is the one I selected and 20 cycles to the Ground.
Speaker D:Both of those songs appear on the Molina and Johnson record but they're very different versions on this new seven inch.
Speaker D:So.
Speaker D:Ah, it's just a.
Speaker D:An.
Speaker D:An interesting collaboration and.
Speaker D:And so that's why I picked it.
Speaker B:Nice.
Speaker B:So Will Johnson, like I was a huge Centromatic fan and you know, turns out he's just a fantastic guy behind the scenes with helping bring music that he personally loved to audiences that might not have gotten it the first time around.
Speaker B:He also was supportive of the posthumous release for my friend Chris Porter, who passed away.
Speaker B:Just a really wonderful person in the world of music.
Speaker D:Yeah, I'm a huge fan of Sense Romantic albums of his solo albums.
Speaker D:He also is a painter.
Speaker D:I own two of his paintings.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker D:And he's written a novel that is also pretty good.
Speaker D:So he's.
Speaker D:He's just one of these people that has more talent than he should
Speaker B:and plays in Isabel's band.
Speaker D:Doesn't he is in the 400 unit right now.
Speaker C:Well, he also did that project with like Jay Farrar and Jim James.
Speaker C:The New Multitude.
Speaker C:Yes, that was the Woody Guthrie kind of thing a few years ago.
Speaker C:But I'm glad you brought this up because I had seen the first digital release like when they released the Big Beast.
Speaker C:I found that I played that on my show a couple of times.
Speaker C:I didn't realize they had followed it up with a couple more songs.
Speaker C:So I was.
Speaker C:I was happy they brought this to the table because that was what, September when they released it digitally and I hadn't gone back and revisited it.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker D:And the.
Speaker D:The Big Beast in my personal taste is the.
Speaker D:Is the funnest of the three songs.
Speaker D:It's more.
Speaker D:The Big Beast would actually fall in line with some of the other songs we're going to talk about this time than Wooden Heart.
Speaker D:I don't know what to say specifically about this song.
Speaker D:It's more like the story behind it is the interesting part.
Speaker B:Absolutely.
Speaker B:Do you know anything more about the pressing of the 7 inch in the.
Speaker B:The different version?
Speaker D:No, I mean it's completely different recordings from the Magnolia or from the Molina and Johnson album.
Speaker D:I'm looking at it now.
Speaker D:I mean it was just recorded in Texas and it's put out by the label that's put out Will's solo records recently.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker D:But my.
Speaker D:My guess is that the five or six shows they played and this seven inch is all there's going to be, which, yeah, is disappointing to me, but I would rather there be just this than nothing.
Speaker B:For sure.
Speaker B:For sure.
Speaker C:Oh, I just want to briefly bring up.
Speaker C:We're talking about Jason Molina.
Speaker C:If.
Speaker C:If you guys missed the Charles Wesley Godwin cover of Hammer down that came out last year, Scott Avit is on that tune with.
Speaker C:With Charles Wesley Godwin.
Speaker C:That's just a. I. I've always loved that song.
Speaker C:And a cool recording that I. I don't know that everybody got their ears on last year.
Speaker B:I missed that.
Speaker B:So thank you for pointing that out.
Speaker C:It's an old Magnolia Electric Company tune, so.
Speaker B:Very nice.
Speaker B:Charles, how about some of these others that you picked?
Speaker D:Oh, I'm going two in a row.
Speaker D:All right.
Speaker B:I'm gonna let you do all three in a row.
Speaker D:Oh, wow.
Speaker D:Okay.
Speaker D:So my.
Speaker D:My next song is by the seventies garage rock group the Flaming Groovies.
Speaker D:And I just.
Speaker B:I love them.
Speaker D:I just picked have you Seen My Baby?
Speaker D:I think it's the second song or the third song on the album Teenage Head.
Speaker D:In this giant record collection that I purchased, there was four or five Flaming Groovies albums that I was really excited to find.
Speaker D:Fun, because I. I kind of got turned on to them sometime last fall, I believe.
Speaker D:And it was one of those things that I get turned on to a band, and then it's like, well, let me see if I could find some of their records.
Speaker C:And.
Speaker D:And so then here they are.
Speaker D:But I was.
Speaker D:I've known the name Flaming Groovies, but I didn't know anything about them until I was at this show in.
Speaker D:In Denver.
Speaker D:I can't remember the photographer's name.
Speaker D:Y' all know him.
Speaker D:He's a Southern guy.
Speaker D:He does a lot of Mississippi blues photography.
Speaker B:He put on Adam Smith.
Speaker D:Adam Smith put on a.
Speaker D:An event in Denver with Ben Nichols, Billy Allen and the Police, Luther Dickinson and Alvin Youngblood Heart, and.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker D:Alvin Young Blood Heart played a flaming groovy song and talked about how big of an influence they were on him.
Speaker D:And I'm.
Speaker D:I'm a big Alvin Youngblood Heart fan.
Speaker D:So it was sort of like, okay, let me file that away.
Speaker D:Alvin mentioned that he grew up in San Francisco, where the Flaming Groovies are from, and would hear them a lot on the radio.
Speaker D:And.
Speaker D:And so I found this album, Teenage Head, put it on my turntable and was really enjoying it.
Speaker D:Flipped over to the back cover, and then I saw that Jim Dickinson plays on a couple of songs on the record.
Speaker D:And that made me like it even more because Jim Dickinson is one of those figures that if you want a rabbit hole, his goes on forever, for sure.
Speaker D:And have you seen My Baby Is just sort of this perfect three minute, slightly psychedelic garage rock song.
Speaker B:I'm a fan of the Flaming Groovies.
Speaker B:And my parents were fans.
Speaker B:And we actually lived in San Francisco in the early 70s when they were around.
Speaker B:Anyway, you know, if you pick a.
Speaker B:You're, you know what, you're getting it.
Speaker B:Just pick one.
Speaker B:Go for it.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker D:And I now own four Flaming Groovies records, but I've only listened to one because I just sort of take my time with one instead of trying to digest all four of them at one time.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker D:And.
Speaker D:And I just happen to pick Teenage Head to put on first.
Speaker B:I love it.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:I'm kind of like you, Charles.
Speaker C:I've been familiar with them, but I've never sat down and really listened to this band until you threw this out here.
Speaker C:I think my biggest frame of reference was the old Backsliders song.
Speaker C:Abe Lincoln.
Speaker C:American Aquarium covered it.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:There's a line in there just still trying to get me to listen to them Old Flame and Groovies.
Speaker C:And you finally got me to listen to them old flaming Groovies.
Speaker C:Well, thanks for.
Speaker D:I think their big hit is Shake Some Action, which, if I had just read that title, I would not have known the song.
Speaker D:But I. I clicked play on it and was like, oh, yeah, I know that song.
Speaker D:So I'm certain, Nelson, that you know this song.
Speaker D:You just don't know that you know it.
Speaker B:That was my experience as well.
Speaker B:I was like, oh, I didn't know.
Speaker B:I know this.
Speaker C:Yeah, there's.
Speaker C:There's a lot of those out there.
Speaker B:Very cool.
Speaker B:And then, Charles, your third one is one that I did not know.
Speaker B:And I'm like, how did I not know this?
Speaker D:Do you know the band at all?
Speaker B:I don't, but I know all the stuff around it.
Speaker B:And no, I'm not familiar with them at all.
Speaker B:Tell me about it.
Speaker D:Okay, so the band is called Beulah, and I think actually they're also from San Francisco.
Speaker D:The song I picked is called you'd Mother loves you, son.
Speaker D:From what I think is their final album.
Speaker D: Yoko came out in the early: Speaker D:Even though Beulah was a California based band, they had some connection with the Elephant Six Collective.
Speaker D:I know this album, Yoko, because it was released by a small Atlanta based record label called Vella, set Record.
Speaker D:And I was an intern at Velocit when this album came out.
Speaker B:Oh, cool.
Speaker D:But Velliset is the record label that Capricorn Records sort of turned into when the third.
Speaker D:I think the third generation of Walden were working at Capricorn.
Speaker D:And for whatever reason, they decided to shut down Capricorn 2.
Speaker D:Walden's started Vella Set Records and Beulah had.
Speaker D:My understanding was Beulah had submitted their music to Capricorn, hoping to sign there, because Capricorn had already signed the Glands around that time.
Speaker B:I love the Glands, and the Glands
Speaker D:are an amazing band.
Speaker D:We could talk for days about them.
Speaker D:But Capricorn turns into Velocit and takes the Glands Contract and the Beulah contract with them.
Speaker D:And this is just an album that I've gone back to a lot in the last year and a half.
Speaker D:When my radio show moved from Sunday nights to Friday afternoon, I was looking for more upbeat songs to play.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker D:And Beulah sort of hits all the things I'm looking for.
Speaker D:It's.
Speaker D:It's arty, it's.
Speaker D:It's poppy in a good way.
Speaker D:Really catchy melodies, but weird, weird stuff going on.
Speaker D:So that's.
Speaker D:That's essentially the story of Beulah.
Speaker B:Very cool.
Speaker B:And so for listeners who are like, oh, Elephant 6 fans familiar.
Speaker B:I'm not really sure.
Speaker B:Think like Apples and Stereo.
Speaker B:So like that world.
Speaker B:And suddenly you'll be like, ah, okay.
Speaker D:And Neutral Milk Hotel.
Speaker D:Yeah, the Neutral Milk Hotel album.
Speaker D:In the Airplane over the Sea.
Speaker D:So Yoko is the Beulah album that sort of most produced, has the most full sound, which is not sort of surprising that they.
Speaker D:They sort of get there from more lo fi roots.
Speaker D:Also, it's an album that I'm really disappointed, has never existed on vinyl.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:I'm like, who do you reach out to to make that happen?
Speaker B:If y' all have not seen the.
Speaker B:There's a great documentary about Elephant Six collective that I've seen a few times that would recommend, especially if you're like, I've heard of this, but I don't really know and you missed it.
Speaker B:It's kind of a homey documentary.
Speaker B:And I. I would suggest P. And watching it's worth.
Speaker B:Worth an hour or so your time.
Speaker C:Yeah, that's the world that I've, you know, I've dipped my toes in like.
Speaker C:Like I know that Neutral Milk record and a few other things.
Speaker C:And I've.
Speaker C:I've heard the name Beulah, but again, another.
Speaker C:Another band I've never fully dipped into, but I. I enjoyed this one.
Speaker C:This is the kind of thing I think I would go back to.
Speaker B:Yeah, I like this one.
Speaker B:I'm not fully into the whole E6 world, but I was.
Speaker B:I was a big fan of Apples and Stereo because they are very like, Beatles ish of of the collective.
Speaker B:And so I always really liked their records and they were kind of my, like, background music for a long, long time.
Speaker B:Just trying it a little bit differently this month, given Charles a chance to get all his tunes in there because we have accidentally cut him off a few times and missed some of his great suggestions.
Speaker B:But Nelson, you also always bring music to the table that I'm excited about, and this is one of the reasons that I was thrilled you were able to participate in this, because I always learn something new from the music that you're playing on your radio show.
Speaker B:And two of them this time were brand new for me and immediate.
Speaker B:Like, I bought the record as soon as you sent these over.
Speaker B:So tell us what you've been listening to lately.
Speaker C:Well, I do want to say, first of all, one of my goals this week was to kind of sit back and let other people go because I felt like maybe I did get all my picks in last time, so I was going to hang back a little bit.
Speaker C:But yeah, thanks for letting me do it this way because all of my picks kind of go together this time around.
Speaker C:I mentioned earlier, there's a big music festival coming to Knoxville at the end of March.
Speaker C:It's the Big Ears Festival, and I don't know if any of you guys have ever attended or if you know what this is, but Ashley Katz, who started Bonnaroo maybe 15 years ago, started this festival, Big Ears, and it takes place in downtown Knoxville.
Speaker C:So we're at the historic Bijou and Tennessee Theaters.
Speaker C:They convert a few churches into stages.
Speaker C:Some of the local bars and clubs have stages, and over Thursday through Sunday, there's going to be over 200 artists, and it's everything.
Speaker C:Last year I brought my daughter downtown for an evening, and we saw Sunny War, Sun, Raw Orchestra, A Rouge Aftab and a Waxahachie acoustic show.
Speaker C:And that's kind of the vibe of the whole weekend.
Speaker C:We'll bring some folks in to play the Blue Tway Special here at the radio station.
Speaker C:We've had everything from Amethyst, Kia, Chocolate, Genius, San Rampe, Pero, which is a the punk cumbia band, the variety and the depth of music that comes to Knoxville of all places for this festival.
Speaker C:It's incredible.
Speaker C:It's one of my favorite things I haven't always gotten to attend the festival, but just being around the energy of the city when it comes to town.
Speaker C:And in recent years, they've had a bit of underground folk Americana kind of bent to the festival.
Speaker C:And that's where I picked my three artists this week.
Speaker C:And I don't know if there's one in particular you want me to start with.
Speaker C:Sloan, which record did you buy?
Speaker C:And we'll start there.
Speaker B:Well, so I listened to them in the order they popped up on my screen after I had uploaded some stuff.
Speaker B:So I don't know what order you submitted them, but the first one I got was Yasmin Williams and then the Gwynethe Raymond, and I already had the Haley Hendrix.
Speaker B:Yeah, but okay, so I love instrumental music, and particularly something instrumental that is not background music.
Speaker B:And neither of these are background music.
Speaker B:But yeah, I love all your picks here.
Speaker B:How did you stumble upon these various artists?
Speaker B:I know one of them you've been a fan of a long time.
Speaker B:Time.
Speaker C:Well, I almost went all instrumental, but I threw Haley in there because I was going to talk about her on a previous episode.
Speaker C:Yasmin, I think I discovered a few years ago just from online conversations.
Speaker C:I think she probably sprung up when I was following a lot of folks who were working with the Black Opry, and I. I really tried to include artists of color in my playlist, and when I find someone like Yasmin, that's something I can really hook into and latch onto it.
Speaker C: n was at the Festival solo in: Speaker C:She learned to play guitar because she loved the video game Guitar Hero.
Speaker C:And if you watch her play, it's almost like every guitar she plays is a lap guitar.
Speaker C:She doesn't hold the guitar like most people do.
Speaker C:She kind of just sets it on her lap and plays because that's how she played the video game.
Speaker C:And she just has this really unique style, this really intricate style.
Speaker C:Her latest record, Acadia, is the one I pulled from Dom Flemmonds from the Carolina Chocolate Drops is on this tune.
Speaker C:He's going to be at Big Ears as a solo artist, and he just plays the bones on this tune, but it's, you know, there's a groove there and just an intricate kind of style that's all her own.
Speaker C:And, you know, Yasmin, she kind of made some headlines toward the end of last year or two.
Speaker C:She was one of the artists who pulled out of the Kennedy center and kind of had a public exchange with some folks at the center.
Speaker C:So she's definitely elevated her profile a little bit.
Speaker C:I'm interested to see her when she comes to town this time because she's going to be playing with William Tyler.
Speaker B:Oh.
Speaker C:Who is another artist I didn't know a ton about, but last year I went to a secret show at Big Ears, and it was William Tyler, and he had Tatiana Hargreaves on stage and just this ambient, but with folk and banjo.
Speaker C:And I'm.
Speaker C:I'm down to see anything he's a part of now.
Speaker C:And he's.
Speaker C:He's going to be with Yasmin this year.
Speaker B:Man.
Speaker B:I would think that that's probably going to be one of, like, the sets to see that afterwards.
Speaker B:Everyone's going to say they were there.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker C:And I mean, this festival, I mean, on my side of things, you've got the Blind Boys of Alabama, and it's Chris Feely, Darrell Scott, Ken Pomeroy, Madison Cunningham.
Speaker B:Wow.
Speaker C:You also have John Zorn, Mark Ribeau, Nils Klein, Reggie Watts, the Westerlies, Burst, and more is going to be here.
Speaker C:Like, this is a festival that pulls people from all over the country, all over the world.
Speaker C:Wu Fei is going to be at the festival this year.
Speaker C:Not her first time.
Speaker C:Like, there's so many things I'm looking forward to, and picking just three artists from the Big Ears lineup was.
Speaker C:Was pretty tough.
Speaker C:And, you know, the radio station, we're getting to do some exclusive things.
Speaker C:I've got a call after I get off of this where we're kind of seeing what we're going to do with the festival, and we'll be getting some access we haven't had before.
Speaker C:So I'm really excited this year.
Speaker B:That's awesome.
Speaker B:So, as a both music writer and a fan, I have attended a number of music festivals in Knoxville, and I 100% recommend going.
Speaker B:If you have a.
Speaker B:If you've never been in Knoxville, you should go.
Speaker B:But I really appreciate the way that Big Ears uses the various facilities in the area because it's more.
Speaker B:As you mentioned, it's more than just, like, music, what you would think of as a traditional music venue.
Speaker B:And it's very geographically accessible, which is not every festival that's set up like this is.
Speaker B:So, yeah, I would recommend it big time.
Speaker C:It's a walk up every venue.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:You know, MJ Linderman is coming, and I think I'm probably going to skip that set because I'm seeing him in April because there's so many other things to do.
Speaker B:Incredible.
Speaker C:But, yeah, Yasmin was One that I wanted to highlight.
Speaker C:And then Gwynetha Raymond.
Speaker C:If we want to stay on the instrumental side, that's an artist.
Speaker C:I did not know until the festival lineup was released and some of the targeted emails that came out.
Speaker C:She's another guitar player from Wales.
Speaker C:She grew up not really listening to music.
Speaker C:She said she would walk around the house with her Walkman listening to books on tape.
Speaker C:And then her mom bought her Nirvana's Nevermind, and she owned a guitar two weeks later.
Speaker C:But she went from Nirvana to Southern blues, kind of pioneers.
Speaker C:And she another guitar player who's developed this style.
Speaker C:And I'm still new to her music and new to her sound, but I don't even know how to talk about instrumental music a lot of times.
Speaker C:But this is one of those artists that you listen to it and you can't convince yourself that it's just one person with one guitar.
Speaker A:Agree?
Speaker B:Agree.
Speaker B:Absolutely.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:But it is.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:This was fantastic.
Speaker B:And I was not only pulling up the record, but I wanted to try to find some video as well, to figure out how she was doing it.
Speaker C:Yeah, you've gone further than I have.
Speaker C:Then.
Speaker C:What does it look like?
Speaker B:And she kind of.
Speaker B:She.
Speaker B:Because I just.
Speaker B:I couldn't figure it out.
Speaker B:And it's sort of like if you've.
Speaker B:If you've ever seen John Moreland play live, and you're always like, how does one dude get that much sound out of one guitar?
Speaker B:It was that kind of experience.
Speaker B:And she holds the guitar like classical player.
Speaker B:Classical guitar players do with it, you know, kind of upright or at least in the video that I found.
Speaker B:And I was like, huh?
Speaker B:Because it's very much like the stuff that I was listening to was very much in the traditional American blues vein.
Speaker B:And this was such a surprise to me because I'd never heard of her before.
Speaker B:And then I was like, this is fantastic.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker C:And it's one of those things, like.
Speaker C:I don't know.
Speaker C:Like, I know some of the people who booked the festival, and I still don't know how they find some of the people.
Speaker C:They do.
Speaker C:Maybe it's just.
Speaker C:Maybe it's things that are bigger than I'm aware of and I just haven't stumbled upon.
Speaker C:But it's one of those festivals where you can walk into any venue at any point, and if it's your thing or if it's not your thing, it's gonna be something different, something amazing, you know, There are some local artists that participate, too, which I always love.
Speaker C:When you do a festival like this that brings People from around the world to highlight some of your local folks as well.
Speaker C:But Gwynefer was.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:She says she has kind of a sci fi blues approach to her guitar playing.
Speaker C:And I'm really curious to see a lot.
Speaker C:That's part of why I haven't gone out and watched a lot of videos.
Speaker B:I can't wait to hear about this after the fact.
Speaker C:Yeah, I'm curious, Charles, did you dig in any of this stuff?
Speaker C:What do you think about the instrumental tunes this week?
Speaker D:I also enjoy instrumental music, maybe primarily through jazz, but finding sort of quote, rock instrumentals is always fun to me.
Speaker D:And when I.
Speaker D:When I listen to all three of the instrumentals for this month, there absolutely is a through line.
Speaker D:I like the sort of droney, hypnotic aspect specifically to this Gwynethe Raymond tune of you just sort of drop into the rhythm, the pace of it, and then does it.
Speaker D:Is it five minutes or is it two minutes, or is it 20 minutes?
Speaker C:You know, 337.
Speaker D:Yes.
Speaker D:But at times it can feel like it's gonna go on forever.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker D:But no, I really enjoyed the instrumental stuff this month.
Speaker D:I have questions about Sloan's instrumental choice, so we have to get to that.
Speaker D:But I thought, yeah, I really want
Speaker C:to talk about that.
Speaker D:I thought this Jack Parson Blues song was.
Speaker D:Was really interesting.
Speaker C:Cool.
Speaker B:I love it.
Speaker C:The last one I picked is Haley Hendricks and Max Garcia Conover.
Speaker C:This is a.
Speaker C:An album I wanted to talk about on the first episode of this show, and I wasn't able to make that recording, so I kind of brought it back into play this time around.
Speaker C: are of since I believe around: Speaker C:She's only put out a couple records since then, but she has done two collaborations with Max Garcia Conover and his latest album, what Of Our Nature.
Speaker C:They describe it as she was on the west coast, he was on the East Coast.
Speaker C:They were both listening to a lot of Woody Guthrie, reading biographies, reading his writings, and they kind of wrote this album as a conversation to each other while they were living in this world of Woody Guthrie.
Speaker C:And Haley has Filipina heritage.
Speaker C:Max has some other heritage as well.
Speaker C:And they have these conversations about colonialism and capitalism.
Speaker C:Mass marketing is kind of the focus of this tune, but they kind of have differing styles.
Speaker C:And from song to song, you'll hear Haley's voice, you'll hear Max's voice, and it is very much the record A Conversation.
Speaker C:Haley is doing a solo show at Big Ears.
Speaker C:Max has other commitments, but I'm curious to see if she brings out some music from this album, if she goes back to some of her early solo work.
Speaker C:But, yeah, Haley has just been an artist I've had my eye on for a while as kind of this folk artist who comes at it from a slightly different perspective, and I always enjoy that sort of thing.
Speaker B:I know her because of you, and the only reason I remember is because of the unusual spelling of her last name.
Speaker B:Because I'm a visual learner.
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker B:Have you seen her before live?
Speaker C:I have not.
Speaker C:You know, I don't know that she's been this way.
Speaker C:Not that I could discover her.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C: ,: Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:So I don't think she's been around.
Speaker C:And I know I haven't seen her live.
Speaker C:I think one of her parents responded to a tweet about once, but that was.
Speaker C:That was a few years ago.
Speaker C:That's probably the closest I've come.
Speaker C:But, yeah, I'm just excited to have this festival, to have Hayley here.
Speaker C:I'm one of those festival goers who you can get the app and you can plug in your schedule and say, I'm going to go here, here, here, and here.
Speaker C:I don't do that.
Speaker C:I kind of float.
Speaker C:I have two or three things that I want to go to, and the rest of it is just what direction are my friends going, what's close by.
Speaker C:But these three, I'm putting on my schedule and then I'll work around, just see what happens after that.
Speaker C:I'm hoping we get one of them.
Speaker C:One or more of them at the station.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:To do a thing.
Speaker C:I think there's a possibility.
Speaker C:But, you know, it's.
Speaker C:It's a huge festival.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker C:Richard Thompson, S.G. goodman.
Speaker C:I haven't even talked about so much to see that.
Speaker C:I know I'm going to miss half of it, but that's.
Speaker C:That's part of the fun of some of these things, too, is, you know, talking to people afterwards.
Speaker C:Well, what did you see?
Speaker C:Oh, yeah, well, I missed that.
Speaker C:I wish I'd been there, but I was at this other thing that was really cool.
Speaker C:And Powers is going to be in town, so I'm sure I'm going to have another moment this time where I. I'm leaving a thing and see her walking in.
Speaker C:So the Powers principle was still in effect.
Speaker B:I think that should always be in effect.
Speaker B:You were talking about, you know, Festival planning for big events like that.
Speaker B:And that's something that I had to develop over time.
Speaker B:You know, when I first started going to Americana Fest, it was.
Speaker B:At first it was only, like, three venues, and then it was in five venues.
Speaker B:And I would make a spreadsheet, and I used to, like, share my spreadsheet with people of who I wanted to see when and where, because you were still able to bounce from venue to venue pretty easily at that time.
Speaker B:And then it was like 19 or 20 something venues and then just went crazy.
Speaker B:And you really have to approach it differently.
Speaker B:And I like how you're kind of like, okay, I'm putting some hard pins here, and I'm just going to let it happen around that, you know?
Speaker C:And that's.
Speaker C:That's what I did at Americana Fest, too.
Speaker C:And that's how I wandered into Emmylou Harris.
Speaker C:Well, she wasn't with him, but they played Emmylou Harris and Daniel Lynn wa had played the award show, and Daniel had kind of his own thing that he was playing a venue I'd never heard of.
Speaker C:I didn't have that show on my schedule, but I ended up there, and it became one of my favorite shows of the week.
Speaker C:Just kind of going with the flow.
Speaker C:I've got a few things I really want to see, and I know everything else is going to be good, so I'll just.
Speaker C:I'll let the festival take me where it takes me.
Speaker B:I'm so excited to hear about this afterwards.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker C:I hope I get to see the things I want, but I will report on whatever I happen to come across.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker B:It'll all work out, whatever it is.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:Charles, are we leaving you out on anything here?
Speaker D:No, I'm good.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:Well, so I always try to deflect here and avoid talking about the songs that I've picked, But since it's just the three of us, I'll dive into them.
Speaker B:And I have three completely different songs this time, and all of them came to me in the same week, like, 10 days ago.
Speaker B:Ish.
Speaker B:For completely different reasons.
Speaker B:So I'll start with the one that we don't really need to talk about, but I'll just explain how I got there.
Speaker B:So I picked the Cure song Friday I'm in love.
Speaker B:And it's because we had put out an episode of Die Bar Music club where Chad Cochran was talking about his TikTok, and I don't TikTok.
Speaker B:And he said that one of the things he does is a question of the day that listeners or fans submit to him.
Speaker B:And the Question was, what's a song you like with Friday in it?
Speaker B:And my immediate response was, Friday, I'm in love.
Speaker B:And it just got me thinking because I went to the tour that came to the US a couple years ago of the Cure, expecting it to be terrible.
Speaker B:And it was probably one of the best arena shows.
Speaker B:It's a top 10 arena show of my life.
Speaker B:They were fabulous.
Speaker B:And Robert Smith, honestly, the only person who has more fun performing is Scott McCoy.
Speaker B:Like, he just seemed to be absolutely, thoroughly enjoying every minute of getting to do it.
Speaker B:And so I go through, like, fits and starts with the Cure.
Speaker B:I'll listen to them constantly for, like, three months and then not listen for a year.
Speaker B:And so it just kind of reminded me I love the Cure.
Speaker B:And I'm happy to be able to tell people
Speaker D:we sell a lot of Cure records, and we sell a lot of Cure records to people in their twenties.
Speaker D:So I think.
Speaker D:I think the Cure has sort of gotten over the hump as far as, like, being cool again.
Speaker D:And so I think people will be listening to Friday.
Speaker D:I'm in love in 40 years.
Speaker B:I love them.
Speaker B:Like, I just love them.
Speaker C:My daughter is 15, and I heard her waxing secure.
Speaker C:Radiohead, Jeff Buckley.
Speaker B:Wow.
Speaker C:A couple weeks ago, I think there was a Radiohead song in a.
Speaker C:In a Marvel TV show.
Speaker C:So she comes to me and she's like, do you know this?
Speaker C:Everything in its right place.
Speaker C:And I'm like, kid, let me.
Speaker C:Let me tell you what I did the entire day that album was released.
Speaker B:Sit down, youngster.
Speaker C:Yeah, but no, the Cure.
Speaker C: the COVID era, Americana Fest: Speaker C:There was going to be, like, a Cure show, like, an American Fest.
Speaker B:I forgot about this.
Speaker C:You were part of connecting me to that, I think.
Speaker B:Yes, I completely forgot about this.
Speaker C:I was going to be one of the MCs.
Speaker C:I was.
Speaker C:I was so looking forward to it.
Speaker C:And of course, the festival didn't happen, but I do have a T shirt, which is.
Speaker C:It looks like the Birds Sweetheart of the Rodeo album cover, but with Robert Smith standing in the middle of the picture.
Speaker C:And, yeah, it was going to be like Sweethearts of the Cure or something like that.
Speaker C:I don't remember what the title of it was.
Speaker C:I don't even remember the bands that had agreed to play it.
Speaker C:It was just going to be a night of pure cover songs.
Speaker C:I don't even know if it was an official Americana Fest event or if it's just going to be happening, but I was looking forward to it so much, and it Never got off the ground.
Speaker B:It still needs to happen.
Speaker B:I might actually go back to Americana Fest for that.
Speaker C:It has never left my brain.
Speaker C:But it's time to see you at Americana Fest again, Sloan.
Speaker C:It's been a while.
Speaker B:Yeah, I haven't been in a while.
Speaker B:Yeah, well, so that's my little.
Speaker B:That's my little, like, old school tangent.
Speaker B:Because both of these other bands that I am suddenly obsessed with are brand new to me.
Speaker B:They're not brand new, but they're brand new to me for completely different reasons, but connected reasons.
Speaker B:And that is public radio is amazing, and I love public radio.
Speaker B:And I am a massive fan of kexp.
Speaker B:And if you don't follow KEXP online, you should if you like music, especially if you like to find new to you music.
Speaker B:And that is how I found the band, who is from Quebec, who I am guaranteed to mispronounce because I'm going to mispronounce French French and definitely mispronouncing Canadian French.
Speaker B:So we're just going to roll with it.
Speaker B:But I believe they are called Angean de Poitrin, and the song I brought is Sherpa.
Speaker B:And it's because I saw them on KEXP and I was obsessed, absolutely obsessed.
Speaker B:They.
Speaker B:One wears white with black polka dots.
Speaker B:One wears black with white polka dots.
Speaker B:They have these big headdresses.
Speaker B:One of them has a facial mask that resembles one of the characters from Commedia dell'.
Speaker B:Arte.
Speaker B:And I don't know if I've mentioned I was a theater major, but I was, like, a history of theater major.
Speaker B:So Commedia dell' Arte and the stock characters of Pantalone and Dottore and Poirot and Piero and all of that is, like, super.
Speaker B:Part of my performance art past, like, that all connects to what I was doing when I was still in the world of performing.
Speaker B:And so visually, I was just absolutely immediately hooked before I even heard them launch into the songs.
Speaker B:And Anjean de Poitrinne, it's.
Speaker B:I'm gonna call it.
Speaker B:It's math rock, but it's like it brings in those microtones, which, if you listen to, like, older Bollywood music, not so much the modern electronic stuff, or if you were into, like, early they Might Be Giants or even like King Gizzard and the Lizard wizard, like, microtones are those.
Speaker B:It's like the sounds between the notes in Western music.
Speaker B:And when you hear it, you'll recognize it.
Speaker B:Like, you don't have to be, like, into music theory to go, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, I hear what you're talking about, but everything about it is just 100% up my alley.
Speaker B:And I knew nothing about them until I saw this video from Kexp.
Speaker B:And it was just one of those like, oh, whoa, I love this immediately.
Speaker B:And then when I was at the shows at the 40 watt this week, I met this guy Patrick, who is from Montreal, who was telling me all about the history of this band.
Speaker B: hey've been around since like: Speaker B:He's like, yeah, they're very, very well known.
Speaker B:I was like, well, I've known about them for a week.
Speaker B:So did y' all by chance either look at or listen to any of this?
Speaker C:Yes, I listened to the whole record this morning.
Speaker B:I hope you loved it.
Speaker C:Like, I, I, I kind of did.
Speaker C:You know, Kexp?
Speaker C:Like, I kept thinking of Krungvin, who I also discovered through Kexp.
Speaker C:And this is, you know, a harder sound for sure than Krungvin.
Speaker C:But it, that's the vibe I was getting.
Speaker C:This instrumental, primarily instrumental band.
Speaker C:I, I had it on, you know, driving my kid to school in the morning.
Speaker C:And what do you think of the soundtrack this morning, kid?
Speaker B:This is different.
Speaker C:Yeah, this is definitely music, but I, I couldn't put it down.
Speaker C:I, I went through the whole thing.
Speaker B:How about you, Charles?
Speaker D:So, so I had, I had not heard of them until you sent it over.
Speaker D:But the other night I was listening to all the songs for this month, not long after having a gummy.
Speaker D:And because it's legal in Colorado, so all of these droney, hypnotic instrumental songs hit a little different for me.
Speaker D:So I listened to the song you sent over, Sherpa, and then 30 minutes or an hour later I was scrolling through Facebook and there was the K XP video.
Speaker D:And so then I watched that and noticed that it has over 2 million views in not very many days.
Speaker D:So it was sort of like, oh, this is clearly a thing now.
Speaker D:And what you can tell from the video is that the, the guitar player has a guitar and a bass and is using some effects pedals and delay pedals and whatnot.
Speaker D:I love the music.
Speaker D:I was fascinated with the music.
Speaker D:I have questions about all the other stuff and to me the other stuff makes me less interested and.
Speaker B:Oh, interesting.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker D:And, and so, and my thought process is I like when it's like real people that you can see playing the music.
Speaker B:Uh huh.
Speaker D:Though I understand someone's desire to not be known.
Speaker D:And I think that's, that's part of the outfits I would have enjoyed seeing seeing them.
Speaker D:And, and I guess I'm ass that they wear the costumes or the outfits, whatever you want to call them.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker D:Every time they play.
Speaker D:Because the costumes are.
Speaker D:Are also on the album covers.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:It's part of their.
Speaker B:From their origin.
Speaker B:It is part of that.
Speaker B:Is part of who they are at all times.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker D:And I respect that it's an artistic choice.
Speaker D:I would be more interested if they were real people.
Speaker B:So the very.
Speaker B:What I could.
Speaker B:I had to.
Speaker B:Like, I've known all of this for, like, 10 days.
Speaker B:So this is not like I'm some lifelong knowledgeable fan about this.
Speaker B:I had to read everything I could find about them.
Speaker B:And apparently the duo played in a previous band together under their real names that they've done a really good job of burying.
Speaker B:And I'm not going to dig them back up.
Speaker B:But the way they kind of introduced this band was they opened for themselves and they played originally as whoever they are in real life.
Speaker B:And then the main set, introducing Angean de Patrin.
Speaker B:They did the whole visual black and white thing with the masks and everything, and nobody knew until after the fact that it was the same band.
Speaker D:That's great.
Speaker D:I do love that.
Speaker D:I don't mean to sound like a stick in the mud.
Speaker B:No, no.
Speaker B:Like what you like.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker D:And I support people making artistic choices, but musically, I thought it was great and interesting, and I'm more interested in interesting music these days than anything else.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:It's interesting, too, to hear both of you talk about, like, Sloan.
Speaker C:The visuals were a thing that brought you in, whereas it could be the kind of thing that keeps you away.
Speaker C:I remember distinctly as a radio programmer, the first email I got about Orville Peck.
Speaker C:A few years ago.
Speaker B:I was just gonna ask about Orville
Speaker C:Peck, and I looked at it and I was like, okay, mask.
Speaker C:This is a gimmick because it came from a promoter that I knew, but that sometimes works.
Speaker C:Some things that we're not interested in.
Speaker C:And I just kind of breezed past it and didn't think about it.
Speaker C:And as a couple weeks went on, more people were talking online.
Speaker C:A couple other people were getting in my ear.
Speaker C:You need to listen to this.
Speaker C:You need to listen to this.
Speaker C:And I put my pretenses aside and, you know, that became my.
Speaker C:His debut album, became my favorite record that year when it was released.
Speaker C:And it's.
Speaker C:You know, it's interesting sometimes how the.
Speaker C:Every artist, on some level, whether they say they don't have a style or they're trying to reach a specific style, you know, there's a style that comes through whether It's a visual presentation or whatever, and it's curious to see how some of that affects how you perceive the sound.
Speaker C:You know, it's.
Speaker C:You know, music is music.
Speaker C:It's not about the visuals.
Speaker C:But I think it's hard to completely compartmentalize that in some respects.
Speaker B:Absolutely.
Speaker B:Because Orville Pack is my exact example of when I wouldn't listen because of the whole mask thing.
Speaker B:I was like, this is stupid.
Speaker B:And I, like just refused to listen.
Speaker C:I had the same reaction, but I
Speaker B:also have one last one I do want to get in real quick that I also found because of radio and video, because this is not my normal way of finding music.
Speaker B:So for me, the fact that both of these happened in the same time frame was pretty surprising.
Speaker B:And I was scrolling through the hashtag of NPR's Tiny Desk Submissions and I found this one.
Speaker B:And I want to point it out because the video that I found is different than anything that is currently available in streaming format.
Speaker B:And the group is out of Dallas, Texas, and they're called Cure for Paranoia and it's hip hop.
Speaker B:And I'm not super knowledgeable about hip hop, but their style, especially on what I found was it started and you've got to go to their Instagram to find the exact version that I saw.
Speaker B:Cure for Paranoia is the group.
Speaker B:And it's their tiny desk submission that starts with covering Childish Gambinos, this Is America, and then rolls into their more known song called no Brainer.
Speaker B:And it's the combo of that spoken word and multi instrumental music that kind of harkens back to my preferences and background and experience from decades ago.
Speaker B:And it reminds me of like Outkast or Tribe Called Quest.
Speaker B:And again, not super knowledgeable about hip hop here, but those are bands that I know and like a whole lot.
Speaker B:But I was really surprised to find out they're not from Atlanta because there's just something about the way the music and the style of vocal delivery.
Speaker B:I can't believe he's from Texas.
Speaker B:I love this so much.
Speaker B:I've listened on repeat.
Speaker C:Yeah, I love this.
Speaker C:It's another one.
Speaker C:I went to the record again and was listening to some of the other songs.
Speaker C:There's one up there called Art show, which is kind of the first track on the record.
Speaker B:So good.
Speaker B:I almost picked that one.
Speaker C:And you know, the track just starts.
Speaker C:I walk into the gallery like, bitch, I'm the art show.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker C:And it's like that tells you everything about what you're gonna get in the song.
Speaker C:And this album, I'm gonna Spend some more time with this.
Speaker C:I don't spend a lot of time with hip hop these days, but, you know, I'm a high school kid from the mid-90s.
Speaker C:My CD binder back in the day was half REM half Tupac and, you know, so it's part of my musical DNA and I don't get back to it as much as I would like to just because I don't have the time for this.
Speaker C:Was, yeah, I'm going to have this on in the car when the kids aren't around.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:This whole record is fantastic.
Speaker B:It's probably not for your.
Speaker B:Especially your youngest child, but I totally recommend anyone pulling up their either go to their website or their own socials because see the way they put together these live performances as well because they are very artistically crafted and very intentional to the what they want to tell you.
Speaker C:Yeah, really cool.
Speaker C:It's just a vibe to it too.
Speaker C:Just a positive.
Speaker C:I really love the energy of what I've heard from this so far.
Speaker B:I love it.
Speaker B:It's already on all my running playlists.
Speaker B:I was just like, now I have to see a show.
Speaker B:And I was pulling up where they're playing and it's like nowhere anywhere near me at all.
Speaker B:So anyway, well, I hate that we didn't get a chance to talk about what y' all have coming up, but we will definitely hit that on another time.
Speaker B:Nelson Gullett, Charles Hale.
Speaker B:I sure appreciate y' all hanging out again here at the Dive Bar Music Club.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Thank you, Sloan.
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